Proposed SCB Changes Are Nonsensical

[LionWalker]

Regardles if I agree with you or not, isn't it rather useless to discuss this here? Should you not talk to FD or the Devs instead?

[Sidenti Taalo]

I find it to be rather useless to discuss things anywhere, and I like you guys. I can't say the same about Frontier at present. So I'll just be useless over here.

[TorTorden]

This is a classic case of FD's PR department being utter shit.

They lead off with the nerf to shield cells and everybody goes nuts about it.
But you need to dig around to see that they also increase the way shields reform (by drawing more energy out of sys) as well as introducing a less efficient shield generator but with a much higher regen, so scb's for pve is going to be a thing of the past, simply not needed anymore.

[Walter]

For what reason are we gaining more heat? What changed in the design? Are certain materials no longer available? Did ship design specs change?

No, the game spec changed, just as it changed when more ships were added, or CQC, or different levels of RES and two levels of CZ, or planetary landing, or new commodities. There have been many, many changes to the game mechanism.

You'll just have to change your way of operating to accommodate the changes, just as we all have had to do at various points throughout the past year. We're all playing in the same field, so everyone is affected in the same way.

[clivewil]

+1 to the 'what the fuck were they thinking' party.

if the whole purpose of a shield is to protect the ship's hull and internals, and firing off an SCB is going to bypass that protection and do the damage itself, i don't really get the point of the changes either. by making heatsinks a necessity it seems like a 'rob Peter to pay Paul' type of mechanic

i always preferred the old suggestion of being able to have only one SCB, which recharged by itself but took a long time to do so. no stacking. no spamming. no need for module damage.

[Roger Wilco Jr]

You can always use a lower rated SCB to avoid heat damage.

This is just another problem with FD not thinking things through. If it takes minutes to form and then fully charge a shield, then if you want to do it in a few seconds it should havealwayscaused a heat problem. This nerf just make things more realistic - apart from the way FD just changes things after they figured out they screwed up.

[UnmarkedBoxcar]

i always preferred the old suggestion of being able to have only one SCB, which recharged by itself but took a long time to do so. no stacking. no spamming. no need for module damage.

I've heard the one time use suggestion before, but the recharging itself is new to me, that's kinda cool

[Falcon_D]

This is a classic case of FD's PR department being utter shit.

They lead off with the nerf to shield cells and everybody goes nuts about it.
But you need to dig around to see that they also increase the way shields reform (by drawing more energy out of sys) as well as introducing a less efficient shield generator but with a much higher regen, so scb's for pve is going to be a thing of the past, simply not needed anymore.

Hello,
Not really understanding this part much. I've heard somewhere that they were going to increase shield regen rate, but not really clear on the mechanics.
Is it possible if you could share a link?

Thanks,
Have fun, fly safe.

[Walter]

Hello,
Not really understanding this part much. I've heard somewhere that they were going to increase shield regen rate, but not really clear on the mechanics.
Is it possible if you could share a link?

Thanks,
Have fun, fly safe.

First announced 12 Nov Dev update here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=199155

Lots of subsequent discussion on all sides since (for example: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=201507), so a little surprising that this issue has been resurrected here on Mobius where the issue is of far less relevance than in PvP. As it's only in the beta test, a lot of commentators have yet to experience the modifications in action.

[Loriath]

The whole changes are because in battle (PvP), it is not a battle of skill but a battle on Whom has the most Shield Cells. 2 ships, loaded the same, and pilots of the same calibre, should be a great fight of skill, keeping from getting hit and scoring hits. Instead, its he whom has the most shield cells will win.

It has needed to be changed for a long time. I don't think these changes are what is needed. I think it needs to be changed to a dedicated slot, and you should only get one bank. But I am not really into PvP, so no matter what changes they make, they will not really affect me. But even I can see the supposed balance is out of whack. Part of the issue has been partially addressed in not allowing sniping of the power plant to cause instant death. Armour doesn't help, hull reinforcement doesn't help. The only hope you have against Sniping is keeping your shields.

Two ways to keep your shields. 1) Keep from getting hit (chaff, skilled flying, luck at times) 2) Used Shield Cells.

Which is Easier? Of course #2. But it is out of balance since you can shove SCB's in every part of your ship. Larger the capacity of the ship, the more shield cells. They created the mess they are in by allowing multiple SCB's and making sniping the way to do things.

Now they have to fix it.