How many universes?

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How many universes?

Postby Silverwolf » Sat May 23, 2015 5:39 am

It turns out that many logical thinking scientists now believe that the chance of our universe existing by chance due to all the physics properties being just right for it is so incredibly massively small to make them think of how this could be.

There are some options:

1) 1 universe by chance
2) 1 universe by a creator
3) Infinate universes and we are in the one that works for life
4) Zero universes, there is no universe just one conscious simulating it all for us
5) Other

I believe in 2, 4 or 5 although I admit 3 could work but I do not believe in 3

What do you believe?

P.s. please let's not turn this into religious argument, just an opinion of belief.

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Re: How many universes?

Postby TomoRosso » Sat May 23, 2015 7:00 am

3 and 5

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Re: How many universes?

Postby Flip » Sat May 23, 2015 8:29 am

The Multiverse theory (and more specifically the bubble universes theory) is the most promising one at the moment, IMO. So 3 (assuming you meant "infinite number of parallel universes").
I'd put number 1 in second position, assuming we're not talking about a single universe, but an infinite number of successive universes.
And finally since neither can be definitely proven at this point, 5 comes in third position.
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Re: How many universes?

Postby Xebeth » Sat May 23, 2015 9:53 am

5 (as an extension of 3) - Infinite universes, but ours isn't the only one with life. Whilst life requires a complex set of correct circumstances to happen, we are conclusive proof that those circumstances are possible. Therefore by definition, if there are an 'infinite' number of universes, there are an infinite number of opportunities for those circumstances to be correct.

As an extension to the debate, I believe the same goes for our universe, we are not alone.
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Re: How many universes?

Postby Ameena » Sat May 23, 2015 10:50 am

Yeah, I'll go with numbers three and five as well :).

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Re: How many universes?

Postby MehlLodbrok » Sat May 23, 2015 11:06 am

The theory of infinite parralel universes is not that we are in THE ONE that supports life, theory is that different universe have a whole different set of laws of nature, further description is extremely hard as the only laws and physics we are familiar with is the ones that reside in our own universe.

Other universes could be even more friendly to life, or even more hostile with matter reacting violently to everything, etc. It's really hard to put up an example or imagine what the laws of physics or nature might be in other universes, at least at the moment. Because our brains and everything we know, from our neurons in our brain to the atoms in our bones are tied to the known universe with the known laws.

However it is an interresting subject, I kind of feel we are born in the wrong time.
Too late to explore/map our planet.
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Re: How many universes?

Postby Loriath » Sat May 23, 2015 12:10 pm

I say we know nothing. We will never meet any other intelligence, mainly because if we even survive getting off this rock, we will probably not survive long enough in space to ever make contact. Distances too great, power requirements to large, and our understanding is too small.

But its nice to dream.
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Re: How many universes?

Postby Feldspar » Sat May 23, 2015 12:24 pm

I find that the supposition that the universe being right for us implies that it was created for us the worst kind of anthropocentric nonsense and prefer to go with the reverse, that we exist because the universe turned out to be right for us. It had to turn out some way, had it turned out some other way then we would not have existed to postulate this.

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Re: How many universes?

Postby TaoZero » Sun May 24, 2015 1:33 pm

I'm a fan of all seven.

There is a problem with trying to understand something that transcends duality from the perspective of a dualistic consciousness.
I try to comprehend what 'both/and' is, rather than 'either/or'.


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