Purple Central Industries - Pand solar system group

[Dielos]

I have been touring a bit now trying to do some credits with trading. I have come across some factions outside of their systems in some places. I guess that other factions also expand without the help of players...

"Ilmensis Partners" is a federation faction based on Ilmensis, where they are alone and have 100% influence. They can also be found in Lu Dong Bin, with 9%, where they are competing with "The Silver Gang", an independent anarchy faction with 90% influence on the system. "Ilmenses Partners" can also be found at HIP 86385, with 3.3%.

Now, "The Silver Gang" is not only in Lu Dong Bin, which I guess it's their base due to their high influence, but can also be found in the nearby system of Mawai, with 3.9%.

So, Ilmensis Partners is already present in 3 systems, and The Silver Gang in two. I'm surprised that there are so many factions already expanding, and we better hurry, or we might find quite strong opposing forces at some point.

On another note. Are we in some kind of lock down in regards to influence? Is that civil war blocking us?

[ollobrains]

From my understanding of each minor factions wealth, its a total figure, so we should continue making them richer and more powerful through (missions,trade, exploration data and combat experience). Aware that some factions have expanded into 3 systems, no reports of any of these taking stations yet in the third sys. The mikunn guys are the most advanced and even they are stuck flipping stations and hitting some walls, tahts why we ae a little behind but in the scheme of things we might not hit the walls thye have, because as they identify things the devs fix it which makes it easier for us.

One thing we know is when we expand the second system will automatically have us at 9.1% but depending on where and the other factions it might be difficult to shift initally. It would appear we have a good core of 10-20 helpers amoung our group, but we lack more punch so for now lets focus on getting an expansion to fire, and if we cant do that, strethen PCI, because i think it might be a few weeks before some of the expansion into 2nd and 3rd system bugs resolve themselves. We could start shooting up and weakening the oro rats in orokundra. Maybe interdict their npc traders by following out of system, But the focus needs to remain in pand i think, let the civil war play out ( it could be blocking PCI while as the dominant faction they have to invest in sys def forces via the 40k donation missions to protect their assets) Once that finishes then things migh move again

[Barefoot Bandit]

Ok does anyone have a list of systems local to pand e.g pand extraction hip (whatever) hightech because im struggling to get anywhere with these transport missions! It would just speed things up and help greatly!

What are you looking for?

Hi-tech is tough to find nearby, I think HR-6680 and Montet are your closest bets, though depends on what item you're searching for.

Z...

[ollobrains]

Nearest hi tech is maybe 70LY out, HR 6680 no choen and montet are just industrial. Would be nice if economies up and downgraded based on the unviersal simulation

But i guess that will come soon (TM). Update for today PCI is now boom up, expansion. and 94% uptrending. The other 2 minors at civil war are again both civil war pending though there will be a cooldown timer. I think we could in the nex 24 hour trigger PCI to go boom again as the time length is variable and the cooldown is 2 days.

If yovue got a 30LY+ asp that can do the 3 jump to the high tech and trade back go for it. We need to also attract some new members if we can just to add some oomph, though ill be doing some missions today to see if we can crack 95%. Im trying a few things within the universe to try and see if i can see subtle changes but nothing ill talk about yet

[ollobrains]

Not sure if influence gets stuck on civil war. Not had much play time today, im thinking that even a couple of missions for the other factions might be enough to trigger another minor faction civil war. The way micheal brookes posted is if u rub friction of two factions up against each other it can trigger civil war. Tried some things today, cant find the warzones anyone got any tips ? Im even getting faction reulsts for mikunn dukes which i was nvolved in last month and this is the 40k donation missions to PCI, so the database data transfer whatever the devs have is seriously messed up. PCI influenence up and dukes of mikunn influence up wtf...

Im having mroe luck in no choen and hr 6680 taking supply mineral missions and then bringing a boatload back from pand. As long as its in the same session PCI get their boost and the minor factions im working with randomly in the next systems get a little boost ( trying to destabilise the major factions in systems we arent in yet but might expand into)

Just do what u can folks and well crack it sooner or later. Maybe we should keep the minor faction civil war going but at the same time make sure that PCI gets the bulk of the influence gains even if it doesnt show, they are weilding a lot of military forces 3 anacondas 2 viperss and 3 pythons at raleigh today each time i waped in ( its been up every day for the last 3 days) so they are getting much stronger and have more force if thats any indication around stations

[ollobrains]

taking a look through one of the other threads, there is a current bug when 2 minor factions goto war where influence gains can slow to 0.1% today. So for now lets focus less on the civil war particpate if u feel u need to for the missions etc. But for those grinding missions trying to push us that last 5% u can probably shift the focus more to trading and try to trigger a boom.
Expansion is probably not going to fire as easily as its tied up with movements in influence, trading development goods may help ie mineral extractors, explosives anything that helps production of refineries-extraction. Shooting down non PCI npc traders via interdiction following on from fsd wake or interdicting within system (attracts bounty) but the loot sold might balance out.

Once civil war ends then we can try and push the influence faster either to expansion or up towards 100%. Another boom for PCI will raise wealth and development ( development drops wealth goes up during expansion). Food, clothing and consumer goods of course, liquor

Now theres something that ties in with influence apparently or something else thats not documented, and thats coffee, if someone wants to try something and do coffee deliveries and see if there any difference in coffee delivery missions ( rare and ive not tried) take note of what states it affects, over other food stuffs.

But yes theres a bug with influence and civil wars in general weather its major or minor , station owning and non station owning. No one has figured out how to make sure one side wins over the other except trade and combat missions. Pass along to frontier forums or just take note, it seems the growth of new members into the group has stalled slightly, we dont quite have a narrative of expansion into a second system yet but we have a good core of 5-15 peeps active and thats enough. Ive seen some new names in open in the last fe days could just be explorers to.

[ollobrains]

Influence looks stuck, boom is critical now so that part of things seems to be working, influence should move more freely once the 2 minor civil wars are done

War zones does anyone know how to find them, i cant seem to find em in space otherwise id be in there and shooting stuff. I think we should farm the civil war for all its worth, keep doing missions for PCI, but kill friends of pand and pand inc wherever u find em, if u wanna hit their traders get fsd reader and interdictor setup. Wait for their fat traders to leave station, follow fsd cloud to empty system hunt em down and blow em up

[Barefoot Bandit]

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Now theres something that ties in with influence apparently or something else thats not documented, and thats coffee, if someone wants to try something and do coffee deliveries and see if there any difference in coffee delivery missions ( rare and ive not tried) take note of what states it affects, over other food stuffs.

But yes theres a bug with influence and civil wars in general weather its major or minor , station owning and non station owning. No one has figured out how to make sure one side wins over the other except trade and combat missions. Pass along to frontier forums or just take note, it seems the growth of new members into the group has stalled slightly, we dont quite have a narrative of expansion into a second system yet but we have a good core of 5-15 peeps active and thats enough. Ive seen some new names in open in the last fe days could just be explorers to.

Funnily enough, I'm siting at a Toby's Estate in Manila right this second, enjoying a piccolo...

I'm currently docked at Lambda Andromeda, and they have lots of coffee. I'll grab 10T of grain, fruit, animal meat and algae, and then fill the rest of the hold with coffee, and see how that goes.

I may try selling 50T chunks at 10 min intervals.

I've also done a small sales spiel in a few other non-ED forums I frequent, targeting ED players, and asking them to join us in Pand, even if it's just to drop of some exploration data.

Z...

[ollobrains]

Im selectively linking this thread and targetting group request and bored players on reddit. So that should get some interest, its an interesting experiment and one that should continue, we dont attract dev attention like mikunn and lugh, but we are further behind the gains they have made, weve mad a lot of ground, influence has ground up to 94.9% +0.2 from yesterday.

Let me know when this civil war ends as im doing a 12 hour exploration bent so i guess i can se info from the galactic system info anyway. Data will be donated to PCI in pand. Id say in next week well have expansion, just hope it goes somewhere this time.

[ollobrains]

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=120359

Heres kinda why im not in a rush to expand into another system. Theres a host of bugs the devs are basically now ignoring after admitting an issue was there, theyve just gone quite and ignroing it now.
Zeeman if u want to give the main frontier forum group a nudge in the next few hours its at risk of falling off.

Id say direct the group towards another boom, im going in for some more trading and combat missions for PCI, it increases lcokdown, civil unrest and famine for the minor faction and just decreaseses civil unrest and raise influence for PCI.

We know that booms do work, and triggering each one raises both wealth and development by how much on the 1 to 1000 scale i dont know but id say based on the inital market and npc trader in space and the security level we could still be under 100-200 mark im not sure how much boom raises it by it could be as little as 20-50 points but we are pending and our 2 day cooldown is up. Bit dull and boring but it gives us something to do. As before if anyone is interested come and join us once we get wings we can have some fun