Wolf wrote:Ok, this got out of hand quickly!
Just for clarification: The only reason for this forum group was to have a subforum exclusiv to members of the forum group of the faction.
Not all PvE members are intertested in the in-game factions, so we thought it is a good idea to give it it's own separate section here.
Reasonable.
The membership itself was not to be a privilege or something for which you have to "prove your worth". As Xebeth noted, it was just something to keep the forum list from cluttering for people who have absolutely no interest in the in-game faction.
So in my eyes, clicking the join button is just like an "opt in" or "I want to be part of the in-game faction" and it should be accepted by default.
Again Reasonable, however, the first post made it clear that this was a Private Group now, and that THEY would decide who gets in. Even Right now it has been updated to say:
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It was NOT my decision to make the Order of Mobius parts of this forum something that had to be applied for in the first place. However I do think it's a good idea.
For clarity, what I have suggested is that in order to be accepted, a Commander would have to have been active on the general forum for more than a few days, and have made a few posts, and to post a screen shot showing that they have achieved 'Friendly' status with the Order in Azrael.
Again, NOT reasonable. I have to PROVE my worth?
Again, completely AGAINST what Xebeth said, and what you have just said Wolf. So Which is it? Can Joe Newb join this group today, or does he have to PROVE that he is worthy?
Like this we also have an estimate of the percenatge of members activly supporting the in-game faction, and the additional forum for internal faction talk is a bonus, and the fact it is forum group members only prevents it from being picked up by search robots, that's all.
The group was meant as a means to keep track of things things, not to split up anything.
I will check if we can make membership auto-approve.
I understand that there are sections that some people don't want to see when they visit the site. Don't have an issue with that.
But the people who are running the OoM, whomever they may be, really need to get together and decide what the rules are before they state differing answers to the same question.
And tell us IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS. IS THE ORDER OF MOBIUS PLAYER FACTION INCLUSIVE OR NOT?
NONE of you have answered that question, which makes this all feel like talking to a politician who avoids the questions.