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Re: New Nvidia gfx incoming! (VR) Here we go! :)

Postby pargyrak » Sat May 07, 2016 10:53 pm

Darr Valen wrote:My 780 has been due for an upgrade for some time. I'll be happily slapping a 1080 into my rig, though 2x1070s for the price are very attractive.

1080 on the 27th, x56 on the 30th. Might actually get some gaming in Elite done before the move.

I actually sat through the twitch stream to see my hopes confirmed. Was worth the cheesy one liners and sporadic clap attacks.



My plans exactly.. X56 and the 1080... So if someone wants an MSI Ligthning 980 Ti and an X52 Pro, I will throw in another X52 :)
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Re: New Nvidia gfx incoming! (VR) Here we go! :)

Postby GlobusDiablo » Sun May 08, 2016 6:41 am

pargyrak wrote:My plans exactly.. X56 and the 1080... So if someone wants an MSI Ligthning 980 Ti and an X52 Pro, I will throw in another X52 :)


That's some sweet kit right there. Although soo 2015... ;) I could have been tempted, but I've been waiting to replace my 780 for some time, and it looks like the 1080 fits the bill perfectly. :)

Here's another link for the gtx1080 (promo page so apply common sense):

http://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/a-qua ... e-gtx-1080

"...providing up to 2x more performance in virtual reality compared to the GeForce GTX TITAN X..."

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Re: New Nvidia gfx incoming! (VR) Here we go! :)

Postby smartroad » Sun May 08, 2016 9:27 am

I've been waiting for the next gen AMD and Nvidia offerings. Now I just want to hear AMDs output before I decide what to go for. Currently I have a GTX 960 but before that I was AMD. Although I doubt AMDs offerings will be as high performance as Nvidia's they might offer more performance/currency unit.

All I care about is getting good performance with VR and multi-screen, so I'll go with which one offers the best. I hope that ED will support the new multi-monitor rendering with Nvidia, should get rid of the nasty image stretch on the surround monitors. Hope that AMD offers something similar!
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Re: New Nvidia gfx incoming! (VR) Here we go! :)

Postby pargyrak » Sun May 08, 2016 10:02 am

For multi monitor setup on ED as I have three monitor of differnet resolutions and sizes I would like to see an option to have the left panel in one screen, the right panel on another and if you have a fourth on perhaps the galaxy map...

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Re: New Nvidia gfx incoming! (VR) Here we go! :)

Postby Darr Valen » Sun May 08, 2016 10:30 am

GlobusDiablo wrote:
pargyrak wrote:My plans exactly.. X56 and the 1080... So if someone wants an MSI Ligthning 980 Ti and an X52 Pro, I will throw in another X52 :)


That's some sweet kit right there. Although soo 2015... ;) I could have been tempted, but I've been waiting to replace my 780 for some time, and it looks like the 1080 fits the bill perfectly. :)

Here's another link for the gtx1080 (promo page so apply common sense):

http://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/a-qua ... e-gtx-1080

"...providing up to 2x more performance in virtual reality compared to the GeForce GTX TITAN X..."

Have mercy...


The 1080 is a good replacement time card. My 780 is launch, so I bought it almost exactly 3 years ago now. I am glad I stuck it out and didn't buy a 9xx card.

Though, if the 1080 doesn't handle 4K well enough, I might wait another half year for the 100s and the Ti model, with HBM2.

Pretty sure if it can do 96 fps VR, it can handle 4k60, most likely.
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Re: New Nvidia gfx incoming! (VR) Here we go! :)

Postby TorTorden » Sun May 08, 2016 11:44 am

Darr Valen wrote:Though, if the 1080 doesn't handle 4K well enough, I might wait another half year for the 100s and the Ti model, with HBM2.

Pretty sure if it can do 96 fps VR, it can handle 4k60, most likely.


This remains to be tested.

From what I read in an article, the reason for why it runs VR so much better than the 9x generation is that it can do 6 separate viewpoints or something in a single rendering pass.

A 4k monitor will only be one viewpoint so it doesn't benefit from this ability at all.
What was to benefit mostly from this was VR and multiscreen setups.

Anyhoo, time will tell.
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Postby Roger Wilco Jr » Sun May 08, 2016 11:45 am

Darr Valen wrote:My 780 has been due for an upgrade for some time. I'll be happily slapping a 1080 into my rig, though 2x1070s for the price are very attractive.

If you plan on using VR, you may want to research using SLI (or let me know what you know ;)). Although it seems like a natural for VR, with one card for each eye/screen, there are apparently problems using SLI - or no support at all.
It's time to give this another go.

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Re: New Nvidia gfx incoming! (VR) Here we go! :)

Postby GlobusDiablo » Sun May 08, 2016 12:25 pm

Roger Wilco Jr wrote:...If you plan on using VR, you may want to research using SLI (or let me know what you know ;)). Although it seems like a natural for VR, with one card for each eye/screen, there are apparently problems using SLI - or no support at all.


Ok, I'll bite. SLI is an outdated technology from when "If one gfx card is good, two must be better, and probably twice as fast".

In reality the usual gain in performance is around 25% (...if any at all. A lot of soft- and hardware does not utilise multiple card setups. Including current VR)

Two "mediocre"cards and the technology to run them are no match for a single "high end" card. Neither in price or efficiency.

So my two credits are to go for a single 1080 or wait for a ti (or next generation).

But this discussion is religious to some, so others will disagree strongly.

So in the words of the Oracle (The Matrix Revolutions):
"...I expect just what I've always expected. For you to make up your own damn mind. Believe me or don't..."

My money is on a single GTX1080 which should be a perfect balance of cost/performance for E: D VR. :)
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Re: New Nvidia gfx incoming! (VR) Here we go! :)

Postby Roger Wilco Jr » Sun May 08, 2016 12:51 pm

GlobusDiablo wrote:My money is on a single GTX1080 which should be a perfect balance of cost/performance for E: D VR. :)

Agree. :D

I was actually recommending against 2x 1070s for VR (unless there was something I didn't know). ;)

Btw, in this thread, I reported 70-90% FPS performance increases in ED using SLI under various conditions. But I only did that because I went "cheap" to begin with, and had to add another card to get the performance I wanted. I'll definitely be eyeing a GTX1080 when I go VR. Possibly AMD, but I haven't liked their software in the past.
It's time to give this another go.

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Re: New Nvidia gfx incoming! (VR) Here we go! :)

Postby GlobusDiablo » Sun May 08, 2016 1:06 pm

Roger Wilco Jr wrote:
GlobusDiablo wrote:My money is on a single GTX1080 which should be a perfect balance of cost/performance for E: D VR. :)

Agree. :D

I was actually recommending against 2x 1070s for VR (unless there was something I didn't know). ;)

Btw, in this thread, I reported 70-90% FPS performance increases in ED using SLI under various conditions. But I only did that because I went "cheap" to begin with, and had to add another card to get the performance I wanted. I'll definitely be eyeing a GTX1080 when I go VR. Possibly AMD, but I haven't liked their software in the past.


Thanks for the link. 70-90% performance increase is awesome, but as you mentioned AMD, this also reminded me of another detractor for mutliple gpus: heat.
Heat production and the lack of proper management thereof are, in my mind, the number one threat to any decent gaming pc.
The few AMDs I've owned were just producing way too much heat, and were just plain unstable. Nvidia may produce lower benchmarks on paper, but they just work in real life, so I won't be looking back.
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