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Re: Anyone want to help flip systems to Empire?

Postby CMDR Abil Midena » Thu May 21, 2015 5:07 pm

Blitzkrieg wrote:Sounds interesting, I may drop by there today.


Cool! I see you list a T9 in your sig. Don't forget HIP 15868 only has outposts.
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Re: Anyone want to help flip systems to Empire?

Postby Cmdr Nsiferum » Thu May 21, 2015 5:40 pm

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Cmdr Nsiferum wrote:All good only do hip life at ponce.


Cool. The next system I pick will have a port closer to the star. I think even if you do missions only for HIP Life LTD at Ponce, it somehow helps the stations' faction, which is bad for us. Have you noticed it ever say that you increased Official HIP League influence after a mission for HIP Life LTD?


No, but I think where ive stuffed up was when doing hip life bb I would bring back a full cargo to not make it a wasted trip and i think trading in some way increases your rep with the station owner, not a hundred on that though. My thoughts were doing hip life bb at ponce would reduce the others ratings. In saying all this ive only ever seen hip league influence rating drop since ive been there.

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Re: Anyone want to help flip systems to Empire?

Postby Blitzkrieg » Thu May 21, 2015 5:48 pm

CMDR Abil Midena wrote:Cool! I see you list a T9 in your sig. Don't forget HIP 15868 only has outposts.


I think you misread my sig there. I pilot a T6.
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Re: Anyone want to help flip systems to Empire?

Postby CMDR Abil Midena » Thu May 21, 2015 6:09 pm

Blitzkrieg wrote:
CMDR Abil Midena wrote:Cool! I see you list a T9 in your sig. Don't forget HIP 15868 only has outposts.


I think you misread my sig there. I pilot a T6.


T6, T9, same thing. :D My bad.
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Re: Anyone want to help flip systems to Empire?

Postby CMDR Abil Midena » Thu May 21, 2015 6:15 pm

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Cmdr Nsiferum wrote:All good only do hip life at ponce.


Cool. The next system I pick will have a port closer to the star. I think even if you do missions only for HIP Life LTD at Ponce, it somehow helps the stations' faction, which is bad for us. Have you noticed it ever say that you increased Official HIP League influence after a mission for HIP Life LTD?


No, but I think where ive stuffed up was when doing hip life bb I would bring back a full cargo to not make it a wasted trip and i think trading in some way increases your rep with the station owner, not a hundred on that though. My thoughts were doing hip life bb at ponce would reduce the others ratings. In saying all this ive only ever seen hip league influence rating drop since ive been there.


Yeah, trading with a station does increase that station owners influence, and your rep with them. Probably in our case, Life LTD is just not going up as fast due to that. I understand not wanting to have a half empty hold though. I know it takes an extra 2 or 3 min to get there, but you could trade your eyes out with Brosnan or Thornycroft. Both are owned by Life LTD.
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Re: Anyone want to help flip systems to Empire?

Postby Cmdr Nsiferum » Thu May 21, 2015 9:59 pm

Yip theres some bloody good trade runs in this general area, but will stop going to ponce. want to install papa smurf as quickly as possible! Then move onto next system, haven't had any naval progression missions come up yet despite doing 30 odd missions for hip life.

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Re: Anyone want to help flip systems to Empire?

Postby CMDR Abil Midena » Thu May 21, 2015 11:54 pm

Cmdr Nsiferum wrote:Yip theres some bloody good trade runs in this general area, but will stop going to ponce. want to install papa smurf as quickly as possible! Then move onto next system, haven't had any naval progression missions come up yet despite doing 30 odd missions for hip life.


Awesome!

I don't think anyone has figured out the promotion system, specifically, getting a promo mission to pop. I think kill missions have more effect that pure trade missions. Maybe make sure to take the 'kill x pirates' type missions. Also, check Thomes' (HIP 16607) bb for them, since they are taking part in a civil war in Kraudji. Kraudji's boards may also have kill missions, but I have not checked.

And yes, good trade runs in the area. It's why I nested there from when I got my T6.
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Re: Anyone want to help flip systems to Empire?

Postby CMDR Abil Midena » Fri May 22, 2015 1:33 pm

Update 5/22: War should start tomorrow. HIP 15868 Life LTD is now up to 68%.

Also had a very interesting mission come up at Thome. The Empire League is an Empire faction that I support. I put them in boom state just by T7 trading for my own profitssss. I checked the bb today and the mission description was:

Carrier signal decrypting... Message retrieved: Contract: deliver war intel to sub-branch at Thornycroft Hub. Reward: credit paymetn authorised to transfer on retrieval of intel by sub-branch contact.
Deliver to HIP 15868 Life LTD, Thornycroft.

The new part is the "sub branch" part. That tells me something new: Life LTD is a 'sub-branch' of Empire League. I didn't even know 'sub branches' existed. It explains why sometimes I did a "support the war" for Empire League in another system, and the mission completion showed influence increase for Empire League AND Life LTD.

I'm going to do more missions for Empire League out of Thome to see if the influence tie shows up. I imagine not all missions will show the tie. I have to be careful not to do a mission into 15868 that works against flipping that system. e.g. a mission to deliver stuff to 15868 to a faction other than Life LTD, or 'kill x pirates' in 15868 because that would actually benefit the controlling station.
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Re: Anyone want to help flip systems to Empire?

Postby CMDR Abil Midena » Fri May 22, 2015 2:48 pm

Quiz time:

Who will the following mission benefit? Who will it piss off?

Mission to deliver enlightenment 'to the barbarians'. To Ponce outpost (owned by controlling faction) to Life LTD (Empire, trying to increase influence), from Empire League.

I'm guessing it will bring Empire League up, controlling faction up, and Life LTD down. Which is bizarre if you think about it. Why would Empire League give a mission that will lower a "sub faction" influence??

Edit: Ans. Yup. Completed the mission, and Empire League influence showed up arrow, and Life LTD showed "allied" in white (wtf) with 'civil unrest' and 'lockdown' increasing and red. Be careful taking missions.

Edit2: I guess it means Life LTD is NOT a sub faction of Empire League. They are just a random sub faction. Fuck this is confusing.
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Re: Anyone want to help flip systems to Empire?

Postby Cmdr Nsiferum » Fri May 22, 2015 6:14 pm

Im guessing we'll see a few more confusing turns before it flips, struggling to find time at the mo will hopefully be back on tonight.


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