Should Mobius be pure PVE?

[IronDuke]

Agreed. Pure PVE would be the simplest way to go. Especially from a reporting infractions point of view.

My thoughts exactly!

And mine

Me too. It eliminates any confusion.

[Zadkiel]

I have seen a lot of infractions and honest mistakes and have wondered if the CZ rule is not clear enough or taken advantage of. Should it be no PVP what so ever and if you want to PVP in CZ then open is avail or another group? Now these are just my musings.. I want everyone who joins Mobius to be happy and I have no authority whatsoever in Mobius. I just want to hear others opinions on this.

So what is your opinion?

I was frankly shocked when I discovered the rules of the group allowed PvP in CZs, as my reason for joining the group was to avoid PvP entirely. Unfortunately this means I have to switch to solo when I want to go to a CZ (which is quite often) and means I lose out on the ability to wing up with other commanders in the group.

[Mobius]

The reason why we allow pvp in a conflict zone was to remove one less headache, if we made it a pure pve then I would be dealing with a hell of a lot more "i was attacked" emails.

there would be far to many players who will say that they didn't realise in the heat of battle that the other ship was a player. 99% of us can see the difference between a hollow blip and a solid radar blip, but making a conflict zone pve only is just not manageable. its worked so far for the group and we currently have no plans to extend pvp into any other feature as yet.

[HazCat]

My two cents... I agree with the general consensus developing - pure PVE makes the most sense. For those who want to do PVP, there's always open, or if they want to rock with friends (like the fight club I was just reading about on Galnet) there's always a private group. Even a one-on-one grudge match doesn't have to involve anyone else.

[Mouse]

The reason why we allow pvp in a conflict zone was to remove one less headache, if we made it a pure pve then I would be dealing with a hell of a lot more "i was attacked" emails.

there would be far to many players who will say that they didn't realise in the heat of battle that the other ship was a player. 99% of us can see the difference between a hollow blip and a solid radar blip, but making a conflict zone pve only is just not manageable. its worked so far for the group and we currently have no plans to extend pvp into any other feature as yet.

Understand your reasonings and if I stepped on any toes I apologize, just my feelings on it. You do so much and have to deal with so much all we can hope is people don't abuse.

[LionOfNarnia]

I agree with the bald one, just leave it as it is.

I drop into solo for CZs & CGs anyway, there are never enuff targets to go around on anything popular - like Xelabara, where there were more (unknown & non-chatty) Mobians than targets.

As has been said, the vast majority of group members seldom (if ever) show their faces here anyway.

[Roger Wilco Jr]

As has been said, the vast majority of group members seldom (if ever) show their faces here anyway.

I know I brought this up a few weeks ago, but for the above reason alone it makes sense for Mobius group to be pure PVE as the name suggests and what most members probably assume. I still don't really care that much either way, and I think PVP combat is boring as a concept (who has the most SCBs?), and if it was put to a vote, I'd vote for pure PVE. And friends can still always do whatever they want when nobody else is looking.

[Mobius]

well until frontier supply me with proper group management tools things will remain.

[TorTorden]

Forgive my ignorance - but is it easy to create your own group just to hop into to join a cz? Or will it still
Instance you with other commanders from open etc? Or, is a group a pain to create and not worth the hassle?

Anyone can do it and it's super easy, seriously its one button "create group " and done...

We use this often when winging up for merit/bounty hunting in busy places like kaushpoos cg's.
You can create one from groups and friends, the group name is locked to your commander name.
And you can either set to auto accept no one or to auto accept those on your friends list.

Say you have three guys on a TS and you decided to go hunting in a Res but the system is busy and you deal with other player wings stealing kills or maybe one of them hasn't been accepted into mobius yet, you can create a group and have the whole wing in it in less than three minutes.

It all works like a whitelist on the FD servers so the group will only match you with commanders logged into the same group, and you don't have to be online for others to use it either.

well until frontier supply me with proper group management tools things will remain.

Pure pve is possibly the easiest rule for the average gamer to understand, but I think what's easiest on you is definitely the more important.

I wish FD could take group management a long leap further and add an API Service, that way we could code our own implementation , say tie it in with registering on this forum and you auto join, and you could give dedicated members group mod rights so you could take a vacation and what not.

[smartroad]

well until frontier supply me with proper group management tools things will remain.

This is what really needs to happen for total PvE. I am in the camp of only PvE, when I go to a CZ I drop in to solo so that I don't a) attack another commander (even in a CZ I don't want to upset someone's enjoyment - or have someone upset mine) and b) I don't want to steal other CMDRs combat bond(s) (and vice-versa).

The group tools in ED are not designed with such a large group of people, I guess FD thought it would only be for mates to have fun in, not for nearly 15,000 people!