No off-line mode

[Deyn]

IMHO

I think you should just drop it. No disrespect.

Its a great game, offline or no.

Live with it.

Nope, it is in no way about the game. It is about the company and its attitude towards customers, at least for me. Other people simply can't play it as "online" (e.g. that guy from South-Africa with a 250 ms latency breaking any P2P session, people whose internet providers actively filter P2P traffic etc.)
I personally decided to try the final gameand give it a chance, yet currently ALL the negative expectations of "online only" seem to be coming true. From "server timed out", "authentication server not available" to "endless delays when leaving SC or hyperjump" and complete server downs on update/maintenance!
The "living" Galaxy is a PITA, at best... intersections even in Solo mode are unnerving and random at best (NPC pirates pulling me over to get 3 tons of scrap metal?! Ridiculous) and so on...
Last patch 1.05 broke the USB controllers, again! (No rudder pedals recognized, standard TM Warthog HOTAS profile enforced replacing my custom profile).
Brilliant move to constantly introduce old bugs, again, in a "feature complete gamma/release pre-view).
Yes, somebody is REALLY looking forward to the Xmas sales here... who cares about a functional game or good experience after that... first sell it, then we have another year to fix it? Nice!
At the moment Frontier looks more like EA and Ubisoft than ever... and I don't like this attitude towards customers as "dumb sheep that will swallow whatever you throw at them". Sorry, but that is not what I and many others expected from David and Michael, given their communication and feedback to the community, when it was about making Elite: Dangerous happen through Kickstarter and pre-sales...

[SJT]

No disrespect.

Adding that does not make your response any less disrespectful.

[GlobusDiablo]

Nope, it is in no way about the game. It is about the company and its attitude towards customers,.....

In a nutshell.

[Combiseries]

No disrespect.

Adding that does not make your response any less disrespectful.

I stand by my response, it isn't disrespectful , its my honest opinion. It is a great game, but all the talk on this thread about how hard done by some people are because they had to drop some features due some limitations or whatever is going over the top a bit.

Go ahead, take Frontier on, you won't get anywhere, you won't shut them down - they'll keep in treating people like they are doing or they will learn from it and change.

Ranting and raving and posting idle threats of lawsuits on here isn't going to help anyone least of all those who want a refund.

If you want me to be positive in light of your plight why don't you all get together and as a group, send a letter or email to one lawyer who might be able to help. There is power in numbers, and I'm sure you'll get more results that way rather than trying as an individual.

If you think I've been disrespectful by saying I think its a great game and no disrespect to you but I think you should drop it, because its getting you know where - then please accept my apology.

But, In my 'humble' opinion - I love the game as it is now and I mean no disrespect to those who have trouble getting a refund but because I believe your knocking your heads against a brick wall, I feel you should drop the ranting and get on with life, either in the void or not.

[QTQ11]

I agree, it is becoming rather tiresome.

[Deyn]

Ranting and raving and posting idle threats of lawsuits on here isn't going to help anyone least of all those who want a refund.

If you want me to be positive in light of your plight why don't you all get together and as a group, send a letter or email to one lawyer who might be able to help. There is power in numbers, and I'm sure you'll get more results that way rather than trying as an individual.

That's what I said and they are far beyond that already... have a look at http://www.elitedangerousrefunds.org

Just wait and see what happens... I'm not so sure Frontier is "invincible" here... just saying.

[Combiseries]

I've had a look. It doesn't tell me anything I don't already know.

Yes there are a lot of unhappy backers out there. Some of them from this group. I don't believe that this forum is the place to discuss taking on frontier for refunds etc. This forum is dedicated to playing the game the way the groups polices and members want.

If you're not going to play the game and want a refund, go rant somewhere else because those who are happy regardless of what they did to us backers (me included) don't want to hear it.

[GlobusDiablo]

I would politely suggest that those who find this topic boring stay the F away from this thread.

How hard can it be?: Don't like the topic? Don't click on it.

This is by no means rocket science.

It's actually quite degrading and disrespectful to walk into a conversation that you find boring, and declare that others should stop talking? In my opinion it borders on trolling.

If you don't like the conversation just stay away. Easy.

[Combiseries]

I would politely suggest that those who find this topic boring stay the F away from this thread.

How hard can it be?: Don't like the topic? Don't click on it.

This is by no means rocket science.

It's actually quite degrading and disrespectful to walk into a conversation that you find boring, and declare that others should stop talking? In my opinion it borders on trolling.

If you don't like the conversation just stay away. Easy.

What are you going to do Globus when you've had your refund. Are you going to stay on this forum?

[GlobusDiablo]

What are you going to do Globus when you've had your refund. Are you going to stay on this forum?

Cheers Combi.

I haven't really thought about it yet. When FD offered a 70 pounds refund, I rebutled for a full refund and that I would gladly stay involved in E: D if they could promise an Offline version somewhere down the line, now matter how "watered down and empty" it might be.
This was some time ago now, and I haven't heard back from them since.

Like the proverbial ant on the back of the neck of the elephant, I'm going for a 100 quid chokehold...

I think you'll find that most of those complaining are emotionally invested in this game. It's not just another game. Many of us have been dreaming about this game for 30 odd years.

I still have a vain childish hope that FD will release a newsletter saying "HOLY CRAP, WE JUST REALIZED WHAT A MAJOR CLUSTER FUCK WE JUST DID TO OUR LOYAL COMMUNITY. WE WILL OF COURSE BE DELIVERING A FULLY OFFLINE MODE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, AS WE PROMISED IN THE KICKSTARTER. SORRY, SORRY, SORRY. PLEASE FORGIVE OUR ARROGANCE.

A little christmas tear would roll down my cheek, and all would be instantly forgiven.

But I'm a big boy now, and things are looking bloody hopeless.

So, to answer your question. If and when I get my full refund, I will happily forget about E: D and go play some of all the other great games out there.
I would probably pick up E:D for a tenner a few years from now, if the servers stay on for that long...