No off-line mode

[GlobusDiablo]

I hope you're not referring to me as being Tim? Because I'm not, and I hope I haven't suggested otherwise.

I wondered why you didn't have a funny accent in that video!

Erm, I'll just get me coat....

No problem friend. What made you think I was? I linked to his video. Was that it?

[Wolf]

Is that the Drew Wagar, writer of the Elite Dangerous book Reclamation, whose profits will be proportional to the success of the game?

He does not get any money from the sales of the game, but I'm sure you didn't mean that anyway. His profits will be influenced by the success, that might be, but they mostly depend on the quality of his book I think
Haven't read it, yet. Is it any good?

[Cmdr Kharma]

Sorry to read your decision......I can really see where you are coming from.......I think it was totally disgusting the way they broke the news......

I would have really liked an offline mode to play like the original....But I have a fast...Stable internet connection so it will not affect me.....So I'm disappointed........But not raging......

Anyway I do hope...You might change your mind......

If Not.........

Then piss off ya Fed Scum......

[Mad Mags]

....I do have one question though. If you are in this group were you expecting to not play in it? My understanding is that groups wouldn't be a standalone thing and even if you could have had offline groups (not sure how that would work without someone running a standalone server) the actions of others in that group, which now isn't that small really and will only grow as far as I can see, would affect the environment you play in anyway. Not slagging off your opinion or belittling the disappointment you feel at all. Just something I wanted to ask.

Cheers Mags

I'll try to keep my reasoning short and sweet.

I consider myself part of "the old guard". People who played computer games before anything was "online".
All the previous games in the Elite franchise have been offline. Games I bought hard copy and kept on my pc, and played when ever and where ever I liked. Offline. Long after (20 years) the games were discontinued.

Fast forward to Elite: Dangerous. The kickstarter is struggling to gain funds. A lot of "the old guard" are asking about offline capabilities. David Braben and FD commit to supplying an offline version, and the money starts pouring in. From then till one week before Gamma, FD have again and again confirmed the offline version was in. Selling the game world wide on this premise.

Then suddenly, out of the blue, one week before gamma they sneak the "oh by the way, offline is out" into a newsletter.

In the time that I have been a premium beta backer, I have been "testing" primarily in open play, as I considered this the hardest part for FD to get right. After release I would be switching between open play for hard core thrills, and this fabulous group for jolly online co-op.

The point being, that like with my other Elite games, I didn't have to worry about servers going down, or FD stopping the servers when profits get low.

I would still have a hard copy on my pc to play for as long as I liked. Like the previous titles. This was promised by DB and FD from the get go, and it was a key feature in actually getting the kickstarter off the ground.

But no. Instead they stick it to their core backers, by leaving it out (and in no way do I believe that they just found out 3 days ago), and not telling anyone until a week before gamma.

It really is a classic bait and switch money grab, and I just didn't see it coming. How stupid am I? (Don't answer that Kharma!)

So, that was as short and sweet as I could make it. I hope it answers your question.

Thanks for relpying and not taking offence, as none was meant. Sorry to see you go. Hope you change your mind though. I too started gaming long before the world went online and understand what you are saying.

[SJT]

I hope you're not referring to me as being Tim? Because I'm not, and I hope I haven't suggested otherwise.

I wondered why you didn't have a funny accent in that video!

Erm, I'll just get me coat....

No problem friend. What made you think I was? I linked to his video. Was that it?

I have the habit of skimming threads and completely not getting it at all. It's due to a mental disability I have. I'm a fucking idiot.

[SJT]

Haven't read it, yet. Is it any good?

I dunno, I haven't got past the Janet and John books yet.

[AndyB]

Is that the Drew Wagar, writer of the Elite Dangerous book Reclamation, whose profits will be proportional to the success of the game?

He does not get any money from the sales of the game, but I'm sure you didn't mean that anyway. His profits will be influenced by the success, that might be, but they mostly depend on the quality of his book I think
Haven't read it, yet. Is it any good?

I've read it, and can honestly say it is good.

[Philip Coutts]

Drew's book is pretty decent and to be honest stands up with out the ED link as a good sci-fi read. I think Drew's blog was a pretty level headed assessment of how he see's things.

I'm staying away from the Frontier forums for a week or two, it just seems to be pretty toxic over there because of Frontiers cack handed PR efforts. I still think it will be a great game but I can't help[ but feel it's being rushed out with a lot of features we were promised not being in the initial release.

For all those thinking about demanding a refund I'll give you one piece of advice.....wait. Seriously the shit-storm this has caused may well see a change of heart from Frontier. Of course it may not (lets be honest probably wont) and I'm basically a shaved monkey sitting in front of a computer mashing keys so you probably don't want to listen to me anyway.

[GlobusDiablo]

I have the habit of skimming threads and completely not getting it at all. It's due to a mental disability I have. I'm a fucking idiot.

Well that's a bit harsh isn't it? Wouldn't shaved monkey suffice? (see below)

...... Seriously the shit-storm this has caused may well see a change of heart from Frontier. Of course it may not (lets be honest probably wont) and I'm basically a shaved monkey sitting in front of a computer mashing keys so you probably don't want to listen to me anyway.

Aren't we all?!

Cheers Philip.

[Wolf]

Aren't we all?!

Cheers Philip.

I'm not shaved!