Purple Central Industries - Pand solar system group

[Dielos]

Just for info. We just hit a boom state. What's ideal to do now?

[Barefoot Bandit]

OK - seems we're back on the road... PCI is up to 97.3%, the others all have red arrows.

I've also achieved "kill on sight" with Friend of Pand, that just leaves Pand Inc. and Leaders of Pand to go - both of which are unfriendly at the moment. I'll have to take down more of their pirate lords...

Good to see you and your Vulture Dielos! Hope to have a proper hunting spree later!


As for the boom state - trade! Bring in lots of stuff! I need to go do another rares run, I think... Will do that tomorrow. Anyone in a T6 or Asp with good cargo setu want to Wing up and take advantage of my Onionhead allowance?Let me know, we can do some clever cargo passing to minimise time spent flying between rares hubs...

Z...

[Dielos]

Trading! Ok. I'll park the Vulture in Montet and rig the ASP for trading. I'd love to wing for rares, but my playtime is quite uneven lately... Maybe I can log 1 or 2 hours tonight.

What's more effective in terms of influence, regular trading, or rares?

And what is that onionhead allowance?


[EDIT]: While we are talking about rares... What's the best rares route out of Pand? Was considering doing the 71 stop rares run, and picking it up from the nearest point from here, but that might not be the best for helping Pand. Might be better to pick a rares cluster, fill up there, and head directly back to Pand?

[Barefoot Bandit]

We suspect that rares are more effective - especially during a boom, as they are rare luxury items, and a good supply may help sustain the boom.

My allowance is 35 units - but we can do a bit of a trick... I pick up Onionhead and Tanmark Tea, you go get rares from the other nearby rares hubs (Utgaroar and Coquim), and we do a cargo swap. Makes rares collection much faster, as I can give you 35T og Onionhead each time.

I'll pickup the 10-20T odd of rares you collect, and when you are full, you fly back to Pand, and I pick up whatever I need to fill my hull with Onionhead and Tanmark Tea. The allowance only counts while it's in your hull. This system works better with more ships, but should work well enough with 2 of us. It means collecting 100T of rares should turn from 2hrs+ into perhaps 30 mins. It should also earn about 1.6mcr

I'll need to turn my asp into trader config though, from explorer, which sucks, as I REALLY like the 6C fuel scoop!!! So fast....

Either that, or we do something slightly different. I take my Python, start loading up on rares, you buy 50T of Gold at Pand.

When you arrive, you give me 50T of gold, I give you 100T or rares, and you go back to Pand. The 50 T of gold ensure sI make money too, but you'll quadruple your investment with rares sold at Pand, and it will speed up the process. Just need to work out how to drop cargo in a nice stright line so you can just line up and scoop it all up in a minute or two.

Z...

[ollobrains]

I did an alternative rares run today, so combined with everyone else pitching in sounds like we did just enough to tip the scales to boom, which is fine, expansion can wait until the devs add more meat to the bones, good work everyone, more traders probably, more missions and maybe volumes supply and demand will go up. The background economic values should permanently upgrade as well so higher wealth/development indexes, which the development might lead into expansion and maybe something new at some point. Watch this space.

[Barefoot Bandit]

I did a rares run with Dielos, and doing one more now, with the Asp though, so only 80T, not 200T like with the Python, but much faster thanks to proper jump range... The wings bonus is a nice - we both scored 60K extra from our 80T respective rares hauls.May be worth Winging up with anyone you see turn up with a trade.You get the bonus even if you wing up just second before the sale, and if th eothe rperson has no cargo. No loss to the seller, and cash to the wingman for doing nothing at all...

Call it a "free donation" to a fellow Pandian. Having said that, it was fun to wing up! I'd be curious if trading as a wing adds any bonuses to the economy.

Z...

[Barefoot Bandit]

Had a productive morning, delivered 80T of rares in my Asp, and then another 180T in my Python - whilst winged up with a fellow CMDR in a Clipper. We were originally going to transfer the rares via cargo dump scoop - but it just takes too long. So he sold his rares at Montet - however, he did also have 5000Ly worth of exploration data, so he got himself a sidey and came to Pand, shared in my Rares profits (with the Wings bonus - which is about 160k) and sold his data.

What a champ!!! Love it when people work together! If anyone sees my flying around in Pan, ask me if I have rares on board - I'm happy for you to wing up and get a 5% cut - it's a 160k bonus for doing nothing more than winging up whilst I sell, then maybe, we can go bounty hunting..

Should help with our influence... I am actually convinced that I am better off doing rares runs in the asp, as the Python just takes too long to jump - and if the rares allocations work out poorly, you spend forever jumping between system just to fill up. It is nice to drop 200T of rares, though...

WIll probably do another rares run tonight with my Asp, so hopefully I'll find another CMDR to Wing-up with. I think the CMDR I was may join our cause as well, which would be awesome.

Z...

[ollobrains]

Agree on the asp thing as far as the rares goes, havent seen anu seeing luxuries checkpoints in local yet. Interesting given the boom, which may well end within 24 hours, where to from here expansion looks like one to push

We mights ee a change in market dynamics after this boom ends perhaps higher volumes or prices on either supply and demand. The game is good but the one thing that still irks me is the background simulator being only a few inches deep, i hope they add diversity in 1.3, ie if a faction owns a science outpost then specific missions, or missions based on size of population i hope they are oepn to suggestions or ideas and implement them ( devs that is)

[Dielos]

ollobrains, as I posted on the ED thread, I'm a bit worried about the influence fluctuation we have been having these days. Do you know something about it? Has something changed in the last update with the background simulation? It might even be that the last percentage points are just much harder. If you hear or know something about it, please inform us! I'm getting a bit discouraged with it...

[ollobrains]

I wouldnt get to discouraged just yet. Im working where i can, it could be one or two have been a little more active and may be countering, it could be something with the npc role in the simulation. Bugs a plenty according to the other threads, reddit and general chat. We have achieved another boom ( as long as we keep the influnece over 95% and keep doing what we are doing) an expansion should hopefuly push us somewhere.

MIcheal brookes is still investigating at least 8 issues from what i can see with the background sim, without to many being fixed, and some changes in 1.2. Back to doing as much as we can and sitting on the fence.