Agents of Mobius player faction

[TorTorden]

I still have issue with the description, mostly as a seperation between our meta forum\in game group, and an RP in game faction that this will be.
Mainly I have a problem with this sentence.
The Order of Mobius strictly uphold the basic tenet of zero tolerance of aggressive acts to their members.

yeah on the whole it cant be upheld while players are in the all group, I did remove a line about that.
but on the other hand it can be read that if a player attacks a member of the order then expect the repercussions of doing so.

Agreed, but I consider that to be such a given assumption that mentioning it would just attract attention to a policy we realistically could not enforce in a meaningful way.

[Mobius]

I'm a fan of keeping things short and simple.

Name of group: Mobius
Name of minor faction: The Order of Mobius
Type: Cooperative
Description: The Order of Mobius is founded upon the principle of opposition to acts of aggression between commanders of the Pilot's Federation, outside of honorable combat within conflict zones. The Order of Mobius is non-aligned in galactic politics, and focused upon commerce, exploration, and defense, over ideological conflict.
Location: Station: Rafferty’s Mobius, Azrael system
Allegiance: Independent

im all up for keeping things simple.
I have already sent in our details, but im sure it can be updated if we act fast, so with this in mind I wouldn't mind seeing some other examples from others.

the bits I like so far are reference to pilots federation our view on combat between pilots of the pilots federation and non members of the pilot fed, and being non aligned to any super power.

keep in mind that its a description of not the Mobius group as a whole but of a player faction. so it doesn't really need to go on about conflict zones and our groups policy.

I will give it a another few hours before I decide on what will need updating.

[bootsam]

Am I correct by concluding that Station: Rafferty’s Mobius, Azrael system is the home system and station of MOBIUS?

[Schmobius]

I'm a fan of keeping things short and simple.

Name of group: Mobius
Name of minor faction: The Order of Mobius
Type: Cooperative
Description: The Order of Mobius is founded upon the principle of opposition to acts of aggression between commanders of the Pilot's Federation, outside of honorable combat within conflict zones. The Order of Mobius is non-aligned in galactic politics, and focused upon commerce, exploration, and defense, over ideological conflict.
Location: Station: Rafferty’s Mobius, Azrael system
Allegiance: Independent

im all up for keeping things simple.
I have already sent in our details, but im sure it can be updated if we act fast, so with this in mind I wouldn't mind seeing some other examples from others.

the bits I like so far are reference to pilots federation our view on combat between pilots of the pilots federation and non members of the pilot fed, and being non aligned to any super power.

keep in mind that its a description of not the Mobius group as a whole but of a player faction. so it doesn't really need to go on about conflict zones and our groups policy.

I will give it a another few hours before I decide on what will need updating.

I was trying to go for something concise that leaves the least room for multiple interpretations, without boxing us in too much.

I wasn't sure about actually including the words "conflict zones" in there, but I thought it would leave things unambiguous. It does sound a little 4th-wall-breaking though when read in-game, I'll admit. I also specifically called out aggression between commanders of the Pilot's Federation, as our members can go after bounties, or even I suppose engage in piracy, on NPCs. From an in-game story perspective, that can be spun as the group being founded by pilots not wanting to essentially deal with infighting among the same guild, even if a faction that now controls star systems has moved on from that narrow definition.

I was also trying to point out that we're not interested in Federation Vs. Empire, whether in terms of power or whether slaves should be illegal. I added the bit about defense to show that we still engage in combat, even if we don't want to be trolled by children in Open, so if someone does go over into open, it shouldn't be automatically assumed they are incompetent in combat.

If someone can re-write that all better though, awesome. Glad you approve of the meat of it, anyway.

[Mobius]

Am I correct by concluding that Station: Rafferty’s Mobius, Azrael system is the home system and station of MOBIUS?

I backed the kickstarter campaign within the first few hours of going live, during that campaign I pledged to have a station named and planet,
that station now orbits my planet within the Azrael system. there are 14 stations with the name Mobius, 2 of them are coriolis stations, 2 are Orbis stations and the rest are outposts. having a station named Mobius and our PF being The Order of Mobius its a hugh moral boost for the group because other groups don't have that. either way Azrael will be the home system for the PF.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny0HFHGiEEg

[Walter]

I'm a fan of keeping things short and simple.

Name of group: Mobius
Name of minor faction: The Order of Mobius
Type: Cooperative
Description: The Order of Mobius is founded upon the principle of opposition to acts of aggression between commanders of the Pilot's Federation, outside of honorable combat within conflict zones. The Order of Mobius is non-aligned in galactic politics, and focused upon commerce, exploration, and defense, over ideological conflict.
Location: Station: Rafferty’s Mobius, Azrael system
Allegiance: Independent

Beautifully concise with enough leeway to allow for interpretation. Just two provisos:

1 Drop the word 'honourable'. Honour is the word some people use to justify very nasty and frequently unnecessary actions, usually associated with the taking of life. It's not required in the sentence.

2 The only reason to flip a system is for ideological purposes and all three of the activities can be used to further those ideological ends.

Suggested re-write:

Name of group: Mobius
Name of minor faction: The Order of Mobius
Type: Cooperative
Description: The Order of Mobius is founded upon the principle of opposition to acts of aggression between commanders of the Pilot's Federation, excluding combat in conflict zones.
The Order of Mobius is non-aligned in galactic politics. It is focused upon commerce, exploration and defence.
Location: Station: Rafferty’s Mobius, Azrael system
Allegiance: Independent

[Xebeth]

Suggested re-write:

Name of group: Mobius
Name of minor faction: The Order of Mobius
Type: Cooperative
Description: The Order of Mobius is founded upon the principle of opposition to acts of aggression between commanders of the Pilot's Federation, excluding combat in conflict zones.
The Order of Mobius is non-aligned in galactic politics. It is focused upon commerce, exploration and defence.
Location: Station: Rafferty’s Mobius, Azrael system
Allegiance: Independent

Certainly works for me.

[Schmobius]

I'm a fan of keeping things short and simple.

Name of group: Mobius
Name of minor faction: The Order of Mobius
Type: Cooperative
Description: The Order of Mobius is founded upon the principle of opposition to acts of aggression between commanders of the Pilot's Federation, outside of honorable combat within conflict zones. The Order of Mobius is non-aligned in galactic politics, and focused upon commerce, exploration, and defense, over ideological conflict.
Location: Station: Rafferty’s Mobius, Azrael system
Allegiance: Independent

Beautifully concise with enough leeway to allow for interpretation. Just two provisos:

1 Drop the word 'honourable'. Honour is the word some people use to justify very nasty and frequently unnecessary actions, usually associated with the taking of life. It's not required in the sentence.

2 The only reason to flip a system is for ideological purposes and all three of the activities can be used to further those ideological ends.

Suggested re-write:

Name of group: Mobius
Name of minor faction: The Order of Mobius
Type: Cooperative
Description: The Order of Mobius is founded upon the principle of opposition to acts of aggression between commanders of the Pilot's Federation, excluding combat in conflict zones.
The Order of Mobius is non-aligned in galactic politics. It is focused upon commerce, exploration and defence.
Location: Station: Rafferty’s Mobius, Azrael system
Allegiance: Independent

I'm fine with that edit. I also look forward to flipping lots of systems.

[TorTorden]

2 The only reason to flip a system is for ideological purposes and all three of the activities can be used to further those ideological ends.

We can always say that whenever we do this we aren't acting as agents of the order but as individuals

[Mobius]

ok ive updated and sent of our updated details.
I took a look at the in game minor factions and descriptions were short and sweet.

Name of group: Mobius
Name of minor faction: The Order of Mobius
Type: Cooperative
Description: The Order of Mobius is founded upon the principle of opposition to acts of aggression between commanders of the Pilot's Federation,
The Order of Mobius is non-aligned in galactic politics, It is focused upon commerce, exploration and defence.
Location: Station: Rafferty’s Mobius, Azrael system
Allegiance: independent

I removed the line "excluding combat in conflict zones. " as this is a group policy and the order is a player faction that can be supported by any player.