Loriath wrote:My experience (been a system admin since the 80's) tells me that no page file, even with vast amounts of Ram is not a good thing. Windows is designed to use the Pagefile, and in my experience, will become unstable if it is not used. I think its due to bad coding personally, but that is my opinion. I have seen Windows 7 machines with 32 GB's ram choke almost to death when really pushed with no pagefile. As much as I would love to turn it off, I leave it on just to be safe.
Yes, every OS should have a paging location (e.g., file, partition, etc...). But how aggressive does the OS use it?Loriath wrote: ... Every modern OS uses some sort of pagefile/swap file. Linux, Unix, OSX, and Windows. And because they rely on its ability to swap in and out of memory as needed ... Some may find there system runs just fine without a pagefile, as others in this thread have said,
Er, um, what? What's system hardware have to do with memory?Loriath wrote:but there are so many system variables because of the number of different hardware components that can be mixed and matched that it may be a crutch for the OS.
The platform-processing addressing-paging -- windowing memory (to memory) -- with virtual memory paging - windowing memory (to secondary storage). The two are wholly unrelated and have nothing to do with swap space at all. None at all.Loriath wrote:Your combination of hardware may have issues,
I'd argue one needs to tune it, especially in OSes that go the other way, they are aggressive in buffering and caching (e.g., Linux).Loriath wrote:mine may not. If you run without and have no issues, congrats. If you have it disabled and have issues, its worth trying with it on and see what happens.
All the System Memory you can afford is the best answer to any question about speeding up a machine.
Memory prices can increase due to over-supply and resulting under-production years later.Loriath wrote:Always has been (I remember when 4X 4MB simms cost me over $1500 US). SSD is almost even with that now because of the dramatic price drops.
We'll never likely get dual-ported (Graphics) DRAM for main system memory without some drastic changes to the PC architecture. And DRAM is never likely to be an effective SSD, other than for very short-term storage.Loriath wrote:Now, when can we get GDDR10 SSD's to go with our GDDR10 ram and GDDR20 Graphics memory?
Not to nitpick, but I think you mean the OS, or select drivers, enabled by the OS. Programs themselves don't use swap for temporary/persistent storage, although developers may assume that's going to be the store (although that, in itself, is not a good assumption to be made by developers).StaticRadion wrote:Yup, this LOL. I think the major problem is that some programs are coded to take advantage of paging for more than a errant crash dump and because you don't really know what a program is going to do till you are hands on with it.
Let me put it this way ...GlobusDiablo wrote:thebs wrote:...
I tried, but all of that went woosh past and above my head. But it's nice to know someone knows what's going on.
Adoption of OpenGL v3 (no small feat, with lots of consequences), insane textures and rendering ...GlobusDiablo wrote:[On a side note, I've only ever had the issue when playing E: D exlusively on planets. So I'm assuming it's related to lack of ram somewhere. Graphics or main.
The great thing about waiting on SkyLake is that DDR4 has come down in price since last year, and will continue to close in on DDR3.GlobusDiablo wrote:I haven't been playing much recently. Saving up for a new system (and VR - haven't decided which brand yet), and I'll make darn sure ram won't be in short supply then. Fly safe
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