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The Order Influence in Azrael down

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 11:52 am
by Falcon_D
Hello,
The Order's influence in Azrael is down to 42% today, from 49% yesterday. I guess most of The Order commanders are now at Jacques.
The Order is pending a "Boom" state. Is there are war going on that we are loosing influence?

Have fun, fly safe. o7

Re: The Order Influence in Azrael down

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:44 pm
by Masark
Yes, we've got a war on in Exioce against the NLTT 7789 Exchange. They're the ones who took Sabine Installation away from us a couple weeks back, so we've got an opportunity to take it back.

Re: The Order Influence in Azrael down

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:10 pm
by Xebeth
I went to Azrael several times over the weekend, and each time there were no missions.

Not sure what is happening here.

Re: The Order Influence in Azrael down

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:17 pm
by pargyrak
I think someone is getting our missions and failing them. Someone from the group...

Re: The Order Influence in Azrael down

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:58 pm
by Darwin
Falcon_D wrote:Hello,
The Order's influence in Azrael is down to 42% today, from 49% yesterday. I guess most of The Order commanders are now at Jacques.
The Order is pending a "Boom" state. Is there are war going on that we are loosing influence?

Have fun, fly safe. o7


No idea what would be happening in Azrael.

The war in Exioce was not going well - the Order was losing its war the last time I was there, but most of the factions seemed to be fighting someone. Lost another Cutter as well. Need some more engineer tweaks.

I guess most people are on holiday, at Jaques or chasing probe maps...

Re: The Order Influence in Azrael down

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:03 pm
by CMDR Abil Midena
pargyrak wrote:I think someone is getting our missions and failing them. Someone from the group...

That has no impact on the BGS. It only hurts your rep and costs you money in fines.

One related method is to take a mission for Faction A, then accept the alt mission when offered. That DOES hurt Faction A.

It's more likely they are in there shooting OOM ships of any kind.

Re: The Order Influence in Azrael down

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:07 pm
by pargyrak
CMDR Abil Midena wrote:
pargyrak wrote:I think someone is getting our missions and failing them. Someone from the group...

That has no impact on the BGS. It only hurts your rep and costs you money in fines.

One related method is to take a mission for Faction A, then accept the alt mission when offered. That DOES hurt Faction A.

It's more likely they are in there shooting OOM ships of any kind.


Still it keeps us from getting these missions

Re: The Order Influence in Azrael down

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 11:03 pm
by Walter
Masark wrote:Yes, we've got a war on in Exioce against the NLTT 7789 Exchange. They're the ones who took Sabine Installation away from us a couple weeks back, so we've got an opportunity to take it back.

pargyrak wrote:
CMDR Abil Midena wrote:
pargyrak wrote:I think someone is getting our missions and failing them. Someone from the group...

That has no impact on the BGS. It only hurts your rep and costs you money in fines.

One related method is to take a mission for Faction A, then accept the alt mission when offered. That DOES hurt Faction A.

It's more likely they are in there shooting OOM ships of any kind.


Still it keeps us from getting these missions

You're involved in a War in another system. It makes no difference if there are missions or not for OoM as they will have no influence on the Influence until the War is over - unless they are combat missions against your foe in Exioce.

Anybody taking missions for any other faction will gain Influence points at your expense and there's nothing you can do about it.

Edit: Thinking about it, there are three things you can do:

1 Win the War in Exioce

2 Lose the War in Exioce.

3 Fight the War in Exioce while running missions for any other faction against NLTT 7789 Exchange on their home turf - there's nothing they can do about it, except . . .

Re: The Order Influence in Azrael down

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:04 am
by smartroad
CMDR Abil Midena wrote:That has no impact on the BGS. It only hurts your rep and costs you money in fines.


I thought it was abandoning missions, not failing, them that didn't impact the BGS?

Re: The Order Influence in Azrael down

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:46 am
by Masark
CMDR Abil Midena wrote:
pargyrak wrote:I think someone is getting our missions and failing them. Someone from the group...

That has no impact on the BGS. It only hurts your rep and costs you money in fines.


According to Brookes' chart, fines negatively affect influence.

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