Wolf wrote:Not so loud, the little ones are sleeping.
If they are still sleeping at this time of day, they are teenagers and need to get their butts outa bed
Gotta ask what you mean: Do you mean everybody can support if they want? Then yes, of course.
You don't even have to be a member of the PvE group to play for th Order.
Joe Newb just bought ED and went to the forums, saw a post about Mobius Group, comes here and sees the info about the faction and says Oh, This sounds good I want to join. Sends in his Group Invite to Mobius and regsiters for the forum and Clicks "Join the Faction".
Does he have to wait till he has gotten allied? Friendly? Bought Snow Cones for the Mods? Provide Proof via Pictures? Sacrifice his little brother who is still sleeping this late into the day because he is a Lazy SOD? Beat Kharma at Drinking? What does Joe Newb, ED Player for 15 minutes have to do to get Accepted?
On the other hand, you don't have to support it, even if you are a member of the PvE group.
So I need some help in understanding what inclusive means in this context.
See my statement above. IE: ANYONE can join, without reservation, identification, money changing hands, secret handshakes or other BS.
One does not have to prove themselves "Worthy".
I understand that some may choose to not join, support, want to talk about, or consider a faction. Others may choose to actively oppose and undermine. That is CHOICE.
My big issue is that the Faction Membership was predicated upon some sort of "We may let you in, and stuff here is hidden and you can't see it unless we think you are worthy because we are EXCLUSIVE and WE decide who gets in or learns more" and this goes expressly against the ideas that the Mobius PVE group has brought so many here.
Yes, the faction is Not the Group, and vice versa, but if the "Mobius" brand is being used by different entities, under different circumstances, and different rules, they are going to be BOTH dragged down by any sort of impropriety, perceived or otherwise.
Suggestion for whoever is leading this group needs to get their act together REAL quick. Realize that if you want to lead, you had better have prepared ahead of time so cockups like this don't happen. 3 people saying 3 different things is not Inspiring to say the least.
(Another thing, I see no official announcement of any sort has been made as to the leadership of this group, how that came about or anything regarding it, which in itself is another topic completely, so we have no idea WHO speaks for the group)