[HOW TO] Join the Order of Mobius forum-group

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[HOW TO] Join the Order of Mobius forum-group

Postby LionOfNarnia » Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:00 pm

EDIT(Wolf): We have made the group open, meaning, all users can just join, if they are interested in our faction play.
Think of it as a "subscribe to faction forum".

Commanders!

We have created a separate section for the in-game faction "The Order of Mobius".
This way, all players who are interested in supporting the Order in game can organise their gameplay here in their own place.
The open forums are visible to all.
The internal forums cannot be seen by non members and are not picked up by search robots and the like.
We will expand or rearrange these forums if necessary and add sections either open, auto join, or on request only, dependeing on the need.

This is how to join these forums:

1) Go to your User Control Panel (UCP) located in the drop-down under your name to the top right of any page.

2) Select the 'Usergroups' Tab in the UCP

3) Check the 'select' radio button next to the 'Order of Mobius' usergroup

4) Make sure 'Join Selected' appears in the drop-down box at the bottom of the page.

5) Click 'Submit'.

Keep in mind that all normal forum rules apply, and that you have to have at least one approved post on the forums in order to participate in the discussion.

Once signed up you'll be able to see the full Order of Mobius sub-forum sections, including Internal Affairs and News and Orders

So, have lots of fun and fly safe, commanders!

LONG LIVE THE ORDER!
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Re: [HOW TO] Apply for the Order of Mobius

Postby pargyrak » Sun Oct 11, 2015 11:05 pm

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Re: [HOW TO] Apply for the Order of Mobius

Postby Avago-Earo » Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:11 am

I'm doing something wrong then. All I see is Overview, Profile, Board Preferences, Friends and Foes. threre is no 'Mobius' link to click on to. It's OK, I got used to being an outsider ;)
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Re: [HOW TO] Apply for the Order of Mobius

Postby Avago-Earo » Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:14 am

Avago-Earo wrote:I'm doing something wrong then. All I see is Overview, Profile, Board Preferences, Friends and Foes. threre is no 'Mobius' link to click on to. It's OK, I got used to being an outsider ;)


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Re: [HOW TO] Apply for the Order of Mobius

Postby Loriath » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:32 am

Ok, so what is the reason for making the OoM invite only? Seems a little backsided. I am am member of Mobius already, so why does that mean I need to join OoM? I thought we were an inclusive group? Secrecy never leads to anything good in my experience. If the OoM is a secretive group that picks and chooses who can join, it is going against what Mobius has created.

Members of Mobius group have already agreed to abide by the Rules that OoM have been founded on, so why another layer?
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Re: [HOW TO] Apply for the Order of Mobius

Postby uvelius » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:01 am

Let's see, sent. If you need a moderator (occasionally online) as a helping hand, count me in. On second thoughts, though, there might be no need since it is already a closed group with not much to moderate, so ... *leaning back, enjoying the starfield view*
I am currently Wing Commander of the Imperial Blood Serpents in INARA, but we consider coming over to the OoM INARA wing as a Squadron (Ozzy should already be with you there as our agent to pioneer the area :mrgreen: ).

@loriath: Maybe a bit like the closed INARA discussions, if planning some supersecret move that other playergroups shouldn't know about? Found that useful now and then. That would be the reason that would spring tom my mind ... but true, OoM could elaborate.

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Re: [HOW TO] Apply for the Order of Mobius

Postby Loriath » Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:13 am

uvelius wrote:@loriath: Maybe a bit like the closed INARA discussions, if planning some supersecret move that other playergroups shouldn't know about? Found that useful now and then. That would be the reason that would spring tom my mind ... but true, OoM could elaborate.


That is what I am afraid of. I have promoted Mobius since I joined and saw the In Player faction as being something that would show how much fun an Inclusive group could be.

But now I see this and have to wonder what sort of turn this group is making. We (The Mobius PVE Group) have been about choice, being inclusive. This is all about being exclusive. If OoM is going to become another group that hides in the dark, plotting behind the scenes instead of including people, then I want no part.

And if this is the way that Mobius wants it to go, then I am fine with that, but I will not be taking part nor will I support it. This is supposed to be a group of inclusiveness.

From Mobius's Post :

So what is the Order of Mobius?
The order of Mobius founding principle is opposing aggression between members of the pilot’s federation; the order of Mobius is non-aligned in galactic politics and is focused on commerce exploration and defence, it is an organisation that specialises in promoting synergy between disparate groups in order to incubate social and commercial growth.


This does not sound like that description at all.

The Order of Mobius seeks what the groups founders envisioned for the pilots federation and that is to promote trade, commerce and protection for pilots seeking fortune within our galaxy, as the Order has remained secret until now it is completely free of corruption and influence from other secretive groups which now control the current politics of the pilots federation.


Secrecy, see? The post from Mobius specifically calls out other Secretive Groups.

This is becoming political, and I for one Joined Mobius to stay AWAY from that. If this is what Mobius is becoming, I'm out.

Yes I know there is a difference between the PVE Group and the OoM faction, but the principals are supposed to be the same, if not, point me to where it says OoM was going to turn to hidden backrooms to run it, because if it did, I missed it. And I sure would have spoken up if I had seen it.

The members of this group who have said that they were going to support OoM in game were never told that you had to be a member of a secret group that some committee would decide if you can join. The group is supposed to work together, not become fragmented.
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Re: [HOW TO] Apply for the Order of Mobius

Postby Loriath » Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:16 am

Forget what I wrote, I just noticed this from Mobius.

Disclaimer
The Order of Mobius is completely separate from the elitepve group and does not represent the ideals or game rules of the mobius pve group, it is a completely separate independent organisation, when playing in the Mobius pve group our rules still apply regarding pvp. So don’t think that because that our player faction is independent of our group that when playing in our group the rules of engagement do not apply.


I'm out. Don't want to take part in a committee back room secret non-inclusive group at all. Will be moving from Azreal later today.
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Re: [HOW TO] Apply for the Order of Mobius

Postby Xebeth » Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:48 am

Ok, can I just say that this isn't 'Policy' at this time, what is basically just a forum feature has been turned into a political debate.

Before anyone makes any rash decisions, there are no 'back room secrets' going on, neither is there a secret committee deciding who can and can't join the OoM.

For the record - my view is that the OoM should be as open as the Mobius PVE group, and when and only when there is some indication of people actively joining the forum to undermine the group should we consider some form of security.

Can I repeat - there is currently no policy of secrecy
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Re: [HOW TO] Apply for the Order of Mobius

Postby clivewil » Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:00 am

normally i'm against any kind of closed-door policy myself too, but in cases like this i think it wise to separate the PvE group from the OoM group, or else any new PvE members might assume that everything they read on this forum applies to them in some regard

by closing off the OoM section, anybody who reads anything inside that area is well aware of what it pertains to, as they weren't able to stumble across it by accident - they actively asked to see it

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