Type 10 Defender Buyer's Guide

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Re: Type 10 Defender Buyer's Guide

Postby sean_crow » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:48 pm

AJStoner wrote:Has anyone tried an exploration build for this? Might get a decent jump range with the FSD engineered to grade 5 and most of the gear D-rated. That, at least, would be a reason for me to keep it.

You can play around on
http://www.edshipyard.com/#/L=A0a8,,,9p ... M02UI02jw0

Got it slightly over 35 ly
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Re: Type 10 Defender Buyer's Guide

Postby Loriath » Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:34 pm

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AJStoner wrote:Has anyone tried an exploration build for this? Might get a decent jump range with the FSD engineered to grade 5 and most of the gear D-rated. That, at least, would be a reason for me to keep it.

You can play around on
http://www.edshipyard.com/#/L=A0a8,,,9p ... M02UI02jw0

Got it slightly over 35 ly


Engineer it for lightness on modules and you can get it higher. I am sure 40 would be golden rolls on everything that you could do max. But again golden rolls where you drop mass on thrusters and stuff. I would say from the looks of the rolls I got in game, 37 would be tops with no drops in mass on the heavier modules.
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Re: Type 10 Defender Buyer's Guide

Postby sean_crow » Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:54 pm

Loriath wrote:
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AJStoner wrote:Has anyone tried an exploration build for this? Might get a decent jump range with the FSD engineered to grade 5 and most of the gear D-rated. That, at least, would be a reason for me to keep it.

You can play around on
http://www.edshipyard.com/#/L=A0a8,,,9p ... M02UI02jw0

Got it slightly over 35 ly


Engineer it for lightness on modules and you can get it higher. I am sure 40 would be golden rolls on everything that you could do max. But again golden rolls where you drop mass on thrusters and stuff. I would say from the looks of the rolls I got in game, 37 would be tops with no drops in mass on the heavier modules.

I thought that was what I did?
I'm not used to the shipyard though.
Or are you talking about "hidden" secondary effects on the optimal mass?
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Re: Type 10 Defender Buyer's Guide

Postby Loriath » Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:55 pm

sean_crow wrote:Or are you talking about "hidden" secondary effects on the optimal mass?


Yep. Roll on a Power Plant and you get a surprise mass drop. happens on weapons too sometimes.
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Re: Type 10 Defender Buyer's Guide

Postby Bigmaec » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:20 pm

I hated it at first but now I'm getting used to it and like it as my flying fortress cargo hauler.

Got it mostly G5 engineered, with 4 large efficient pulse turrets, 2 medium efficient/1 medium overcharged MC turret and two small long range gimballed cannons. I can haul 400 tons of cargo without having to fear anything in PvE. And it has this flying fortress feeling. Did even some runs in open without getting rekt :mrgreen:

The big three can do everything better of course, but I'll self-restrict myself to one ship per type. And I have a Explorer-Conda and a battle-'Vette and no rank for Cutter, so hauling is T-10 territory for me. And it's ok.

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Re: Type 10 Defender Buyer's Guide

Postby DarkMere » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:35 am

At the moment I have an A rated engineered Conda which I call my Combat Conda (CC) to differentiate it from my trading Conda. I can't have the other two big ships due to my rank. I am thinking of buying the Type 10, A rating and engineering it as a possible replacement to the CC, although for a while I would run them side by side to be sure. When I am using my CC I feel almost indestructible in the haz rez or cnb, will the Type 10 make that much of a difference? I don't want to buy one just for the experience, only if there is a clear improvement?

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Re: Type 10 Defender Buyer's Guide

Postby Bigmaec » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:00 am

It's worse than the big three (Conda, Vette, Cutter). So it would be an downgrade imho.

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Re: Type 10 Defender Buyer's Guide

Postby Phillipus » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:45 am

Bigmaec wrote:It's worse than the big three (Conda, Vette, Cutter). So it would be an downgrade imho.


Yep. Much worse.

Type 10 buyer's remorse will be a thing in the new year.

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Re: Type 10 Defender Buyer's Guide

Postby TorTorden » Sat Dec 23, 2017 12:05 pm

Nope.

It's actually brilliant.
It just tends to reveal who's a shit pilot or not cause the thing takes a little skill versus a conda.
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Re: Type 10 Defender Buyer's Guide

Postby Phillipus » Sat Dec 23, 2017 12:09 pm

TorTorden wrote:Nope.

It's actually brilliant.
It just tends to reveal who's a shit pilot or not cause the thing takes a little skill versus a conda.


Well I guess I'm a shit and unskilled pilot and you're superman. You must be very pleased with yourself. :roll:


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