Engineers 2.1 Beta - findings so far

[Phillipus]

Cannons seem to be back to their former glory.

Generally, with the new NPC AI, one's tactics are going to have be more boom and zoom and factor in a longer TTK.

[Walter]

Cannons seem to be back to their former glory.

Generally, with the new NPC AI, one's tactics are going to have be more boom and zoom and factor in a longer TTK.

The AI definitely doesn't run when shields are down in the latest beta. Last night I was taking out everything from Imperial Fighters to Cutters in a FdL in v2.0. Just tried the new beta and was destroyed - after a long contest - by an Asp Scout, which seemed to be able to out-perform the FdL at every turn.

Going to have to rethink a lot of things - perhaps it was just me that was out-performed.

Glad I'm not just starting out.

[charlie2alpha]

Cannons seem to be back to their former glory.

Generally, with the new NPC AI, one's tactics are going to have be more boom and zoom and factor in a longer TTK.

The AI definitely doesn't run when shields are down in the latest beta. Last night I was taking out everything from Imperial Fighters to Cutters in a FdL in v2.0. Just tried the new beta and was destroyed - after a long contest - by an Asp Scout, which seemed to be able to out-perform the FdL at every turn.

Going to have to rethink a lot of things - perhaps it was just me that was out-performed.

Glad I'm not just starting out.

Ouch, sounds quite nasty. I hope the beta testers do their job and give the right feedback to Frontier to balance the thing, if it becomes too hard they will push players away, and they don't want that, they need 'em here to buy the new yearly expansions!

[Phillipus]

I lost my shields a few times, and my hull got bashed. I'm not complaining about a harder AI at all, but it will mean that I probably won't be earning my income from RES so much.

[Nethaufer]

Ugh, gambling on trying to get good hardpoints for my FAS. If doing the gamble with fish right now is any sign, to properly get the most out of your hardpoints when you gamble actual resources, you're gonna need a lot of time. And what sucks is there seems to be one or two weapon mods that are a slight downside to not having anything at all, like the emmissive rounds, which to me are useless 'cause I don't think AI silent run so I'll just be left with a gun that overheats my ship quicker, which is what I really don't need. Although, found an interesting mod for the multis that autoreload, even when you shoot, at the cost of a smaller clip size.

I'll probably stick to core internal and optional internal engineer mods, come live.

[Cmdr Kharma]

Glad I'm not just starting out.

You and I both......

Fings aint what they used to be......

[Phillipus]

I found a video by someone (not me) where you can see pretty much what the NPC AI is like now. Somehow the NPCs all manage to stay out of the firing line.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvH7vPZULc4

[Nethaufer]

I found a video by someone (not me) where you can see pretty much what the NPC AI is like now. Somehow the NPCs all manage to stay out of the firing line.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvH7vPZULc4

Well, at least they're (hopefully) listening to people about the NPC changes. They tried to change the AI so that they didn't run like they did in the last update, I imagine there will be some fine tuning in Beta 5.

[charlie2alpha]

I found a video by someone (not me) where you can see pretty much what the NPC AI is like now. Somehow the NPCs all manage to stay out of the firing line.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvH7vPZULc4

That's almost unplayable, if they're gonna force us to put turrets they should stop the chaff spam at least. It's game, I don't plan to start putting extra effort on it. If they make it unplayable, well, it's goodbye time for me.

[Cometborne]

I found a video by someone (not me) where you can see pretty much what the NPC AI is like now.

This is actually depressing, if they do not tone this down a lot, flying a freighter or an explorer will become suicide, and that in turn will drive the non-pew-pew folks first into low-waking to desktop, and ultimately out of the game.