Why can't I enjoy the Viper?

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Re: Why can't I enjoy the Viper?

Postby TorTorden » Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:09 pm

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Re: Why can't I enjoy the Viper?

Postby Gorf » Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:22 pm

I got my first solo 'conda kill in a viper. Just sayin'...
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Re: Why can't I enjoy the Viper?

Postby Avago-Earo » Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:31 pm

Gorf wrote:I got my first solo 'conda kill in a viper. Just sayin'...


Same here, last week. It can be done :)
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Re: Why can't I enjoy the Viper?

Postby Boozeman » Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:41 pm

Hi,

I got my first million with the RES-hunting Viper. Then the Vulture came and I used it a lot. Now I have A-graded Python for RES and CZ-junting and it is just like flying Leobard 2A6 (Main Battle Tank used by Finnish Defence Forces) It is slow to turn but FA-off it can be turned around the post stamp :)

I have also iCourier and it is fun ship to fly and enough punch too.

But somehow in a weird way I was liked the Viper a lot. Maybe I need one Viper Mk IV when it cames :)
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Re: Why can't I enjoy the Viper?

Postby PulsarShark » Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:49 pm

The following may increase Viper enjoyment, especially if you liked any of the BSG reboot series...

For best results, do as many of these as possible at the same time:

    Fly with wingmates also using Vipers
    Use all-multicannon build*
    Use voice comms
    Turn off game music, turn on playlist of BSG combat tracks
    Speak or type favorite sci-fi lines
    Wingmates all use the same paint scheme

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(may also make other non-favorite ships more fun to fly)
*(all-MC build not guaranteed to improve your experience on other ships)
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Re: Why can't I enjoy the Viper?

Postby clivewil » Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:03 am

remember the Viper got its reputation as the premier fighter early in ED's days before there were Vultures, Ferdies and Assault Ships

its strength is its capability rather than utility, i.e. it can be a potent weapon but will feel as uncomfortable as shit to fly, or at least that was my experience the few times i've used Vipers.

the way the hardpoints are set up means you need to keep the target in the centre of your view or lower, or else the medium weapons won't be able to track it because they can't pivot high enough. to me this was less pleasant and natural than say with the Cobra or Vulture where you'd typically keep the target about 2/3 of the way up your view, i.e. in the centre of your canopy glass instead of directly in front.
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Re: Why can't I enjoy the Viper?

Postby Dean Smith » Mon Nov 09, 2015 3:48 pm

I absolutely love my Viper. The ability to get behind your target, as Kiltrathi said, is the best part. I always have the FA toggle bound to some easy button so I can turret into position.

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Re: Why can't I enjoy the Viper?

Postby evovi » Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:41 pm

Been flying mine for a good few hours now, and I love it, with the multicannons it's very easy on power management - with 4 pips in engines it is a very manoeuvrable and quick ship.. Multicannons last forever on the weapons side leaving me to assign power to systems or engines to suit the situation... As was pointed out in another post - i find jousting a viable tactic when there's a few targets around... Boost away, FA off, turn and volley.. One on one it's stay close behind and it's game over once all four cannons are targeted and firing, it's ruthless... Taken on anacondas in it but none solo as of yet - it's much easier to target the subsystems against an anaconda due to the size of the ship, but I struggle to keep in a safe place and distance due to my inexperience and the speed of my ship compared to the bulky anaconda - practice practice practice

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Re: Why can't I enjoy the Viper?

Postby Tiberius Mathusia » Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:13 pm

I couldn't get on with the Viper either, it felt sluggish even when I tried fitting D modules to reduce mass, so I've ended up going back to the Cobra which I'm loving and seems equally if not more effective in combat with it's greater speed.

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Re: Why can't I enjoy the Viper?

Postby thirstyfish » Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:44 pm

I have both Vipers, III and IV, and I like the IV better. True, it is slower and less agile, but you don't have the power management issues, and the hard-point placement makes it easier to keep your medium weapons on target if you are using gimballed weapons. Might actually sell the III, but it is just so damn zippy, not much you can't out turn. Might replace my medium MCs with particle accelerators.
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